The torture question is an interesting one. Was watching a doc about it last night and you see how a culture of degradation begins at one place (Guantanamo) and then spreads to others (Abu Ghraib, among others). The people at the top, the very top, give the green light and the ranks below very quickly and easily do the bidding. In a climate of intimidation, fear and loathing, with the thirst for revenge a human constant, why wouldn't people start torturing each other? Watching the program I felt, for the first time, an understanding of the torturers, their motivation. Damn they must have enjoyed their work. Just as much as Mr Rumsfeld enjoys his. But we all know that too much enjoyment can lead to a nasty hangover.